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crankystalfos replied to your post: is there a romantic trope for the bar scene in the finale? like, dean and cas watching two people fall in love leading to them falling in love?

Had a poke around TV Tropes. I think it was just a super quick Plot Parallel combined with a Stunned Silence character reaction shot from Dean.

Yes, it was probably that! (thanks for digging around in there—I know it’s not easy!) The context—setting, conversation, music, cupid, and the twist of people’s preconceptions (Dean’s included)—made it tinged with a bit of a romantic hue, imo. And for destiel/deancas fans who think it was too minor, let me tell you, every second of an episode (especially in the finale where there is a lot of information to cover), is chosen carefully. Carver wanted this scene highlighted, and even chose to highlight it instead of Sam’s confession scene. If that’s not one big neon sign on the road screaming “destiel is FUCKING NIGH” then I don’t know what is.  

This is what I’ve been thinking. I’ve seen criticism that shippers are overthinking things, but nothing is placed into a TV show by accident. If you only have 40 minutes to work with, you use those 40 minutes wisely.

(Also, still reeling over the fact that yet again, this kind of thing—witnessing a same-sex couple/getting hit on by a guy—only happens to Dean, never Sam.)

Yes exactly! Every single thing is important, and the fact that they chose to focus on the bar scene instead of showing Sam’s confession is pretty big. (I would’ve liked to hear that confession, too!) Also, this is my ~opinion~ but I don’t think we’ve ever had any doubts about Sam’s preferences. The fact that Dean gets all these scenes, time and time again, is also telling. 

Yes! Not to mention… did it really have to be a same-sex couple on top of that? (Not that I’m complaining!) Carver didn’t have to write it that way, and it didn’t have to involve Dean and Cas witnessing it. But it did, and that has to say something.

I can’t help but believe that the fans who say we’re overthinking things are just, well, dense.

I’m a writer (like most of y’all), I’ve been writing my entire life, I’ve taken courses in screenwriting, and when I tell my dad (who fervently does not ship Destiel, and thinks that they have a father/son relationship [which, what the fuck]) that every moment in the show is put there purposefully, nothing is an accident … my dad is still like, “You’re reading way too much into this.”

It’s so frustrating for us, as a fandom and as Destiel shippers, to be dismissed as over-thinking things, or for being “desperate” for evidence for our ship to be canon … because, it really is all there. Subtext is arguably more important than text in that it allows a much deeper understanding of the work.

So, honestly, I wonder how many of these people who say “You’re reading into this too much!” are closet homophobes who just don’t want their show to suddenly “turn gay”.

(sorry for butting in on the conversation - just adding my two cents).

I replied to the non-rebloggable version, but I’d like to say it here too.  
As a fellow writer, I use secondary characters to mirror and allude to things relating to the main characters.  This creates subtext and is called foreshadowing.  The Supernatural writers are very clearly and consistently doing so with secondary characters in the show and pointedly drawing parallels to Dean and Castiel.  That is why so many of us who understand how writing, plot and character development work are adamant about Destiel.